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*Intro to Reborn LDS Church (Part 9 of 9)

So far, we keep referring to this group as “The Brazil Group.”  But what is the official name of this church?

John:  So, the short name we use, instead of having to say, it’s the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints founded/headquartered in Brazil. That is a mouthful. We’re doing the short name. It’s the Reborn LDS church, because that’s what it is.  It’s reborn. It’s like this Christian reborn thing.  Because it turns out if you look at the Mayan calendar, the life cycle of man. First there’s conception and then there’s quickening, where you enter the womb, and then there’s birth. The next step after that is what I call the birth of the natural man. It’s the day of accountability. It’s teenagers when they get rebellious. That’s the natural man that rebels against God, then there’s a day later on in life where you’re supposed to repent, turn to God again, and be born again of the Spirit. You’ve been born again. There’s a day in everybody’s life that’s supposed to do that. The Church of God has a birth date. It also has a date when it became rebellious, which is the day it elected Brigham Young, it turns out. Then, there’s a day when it stops being rebellious and goes back to God. That was, I believe, the 6th of April 2019. It was reborn at that time. So, I’m saying–it’s not just a cute name. It actually was reborn at that time. It was prophesied in the sealed book by Moses, which nobody could have faked because they don’t know that stuff.

John:  So, anyway, there you go. That’s the Reborn LDS Church. The website is, there’s one in Brazil. But, I made my own, because I have the old histories. I like it better. It’s called Second Invitation, because Joseph Smith was the first invitation to the restored gospel. This is now the second invitation to the restored gospel. So, There I’ve got a history and there’s lots of information there about this church.

GT:  All right, cool.  Denver Snuffer, have you talked to him about this church?

John:  Oh, he did not like the book.  Before it came out, he read about it, and pronounced it bogus before he’s read it. Now he has read it, and he hasn’t changed his mind.

John:  So, I’m a real rebel over there. The word on the street over at Denver’s place is, “Too bad about John.” And why? Because they still want to follow a prophet. They’re following him. He says, “Don’t follow me.” He just said–and he never said he prayed about the book. He said, “It’s a big deal for me to come into the presence of the Lord, and I’m not going to pray about trivial things.” He said, “To me, this is obviously bogus.” That was his word on it, bogus. So, it’s just his opinion. It boils down to, I liked the book and he didn’t. But, of course, everybody in his group is mysteriously with him. So, I go to the conferences, and I told him. I said, I won’t say anything that you think is heresy. But, anyway, so I’m a believer, but not too many of his group are. I don’t, I think I know one other one who is in his group that accepts the Sealed Book. So, there you go.

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The late Dr John Pratt answers some final questions.

Don’t miss our previous conversations with John.

593:  3 Churches of Mormonism

592:  What’s in Sealed Book of Mormon?

591:  Hofmann Question of Brazil Plates

590:  Brazil Golden Plates

589:  John Pratt’s Spiritual Journey

588:  Dating Problems with First Vision

587:  Dating First Vision

586:  Dating Christ’s Birth

1 thought on “*Intro to Reborn LDS Church (Part 9 of 9)

  1. I think it’s been about 35 years since I bought Divergent Paths of the Restoration by Steven Shields. It gives various-length summaries of about 200 different “splinter” churches that have arisen through the years based on the foundation laid by Joseph Smith in 1830. Interesting stuff. I have since tried to keep abreast of the various “one mighty and strong” candidates, sealed books, and visitations by prophets from the past. As a side-bar, I was the first to point out 15 years ago to Truman Madsen – who was then serving as a stake president in Utah County and had lost several members to a group out of the Alpine/Highland area who had a leader claiming visitations, revelations, and new authority – that the group’s newly revealed “sacred scriptures” were actually plagiarized from pseudepigrapha from the 2nd century B.C.E. to 4th century A.D.

    There are many similarities to these various offshoots. You can kind of recognize required items that place each group under the basic Mormon umbrella, as well as teachings and practices that make them unique. Thank you for sharing the information and interview for this group.

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