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Is Trinity in Lectures on Faith/Book of Mormon? (Part 2 of 7)

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There are many people who claim that the Book of Mormon and Lectures on Faith contain trinitarian ideas.  Denver Snuffer, on the other hand, says that the Book of Mormon contains Nauvoo-style theology, rather than the trinity.  How does he come to that conclusion?

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GT:  Also, I’ve read Lectures on Faith, and one of my understandings is Lectures on Faith is very Trinitarian. I feel like that’s kind of why the LDS Church put that away. So, I’m curious, because you’ve re-canonized that.  To me, the Lectures on Faith sounds very Trinitarian and the Book of Mormon, as we have it, does sound very Trinitarian. So it’s interesting, to me, to hear you say, “Well, if you take out the punctuation…I guess it would support more of a Nauvoo-style theology. Is that what you’re saying?

Denver:  Oh, yes. Yes, I think so.

GT:  So, how would you respond to that?

Denver:  Well, let me see if I can find the language. The Lecture that talks about who God is. See, one of my problems is that I just got this on the 25th, and this is the 28th. I haven’t gotten to Lectures on Faith to look at it just yet. There’s a definition given of who God is, in Lectures on Faith, and it says that there is God the Father who is a personage of spirit, power, glory, and then there’s God the Son. And he’s a personage, and then there’s the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is the mind of the Father and the Son. That is very Nauvoo-era doctrinally correct.

Have you read Lectures on Faith?  Do you think it trinitarian?  Do you think re-punctuating the Book of Mormon would make it less trinitarian?  Check out our conversation….

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  • Guest: Denver Snuffer
  • Denomination: Remnant Movement
  • Theology: Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith Translation, Theology
  • Historical Mentions Mormon History
  • Tags: Church History, Denver Snuffer, GT Podcast, iTunes, Lectures on Faith, Mormon schismatic group, Mormon schisms, Mormon scriptures, prophet, Remnant Movement, Remnant Scriptures, trinity

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4 Responses

  1. jpv says:
    September 6, 2020 at 7:46 pm

    Dang, I wish I knew you were interviewing him so we could ask questions.

  2. RickB says:
    September 7, 2020 at 12:21 pm

    Hopefully I got lucky and asked it!

  3. Leonard says:
    September 8, 2020 at 11:14 pm

    I believe Denver wanted to quote from the LoF the following:

    Lecture Five

    “There are two personages who constitute the great, matchless, governing and supreme power over all things—by whom all things were created and made…They are the Father and the Son: The Father being a personage of spirit, glory and power: possessing all perfection and fulness: The Son, who was in the bosom of the Father, a personage of tabernacle, made, or fashioned like unto man, or being in the form and likeness of man, or, rather, man was formed after his likeness, and in his image;—he is also the express image and likeness of the personage of the Father:…And he being the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, and having overcome, received a fulness of the glory of the Father—possessing the same mind with the Father, which mind is the Holy Spirit, that bears record of the Father and the Son, and these three are one, or in other words, these three constitute the great, matchless, governing and supreme power over all things: by whom all things were created and made, that were created and made: and these three constitute the Godhead, and are one:…”

    This deviates significantly from the orthodox idea of Trinity in that it helps us understand more fully the unique positions the Father and Son occupy and the holy spirit is the Mind and Will of them both that can sanctify our spirits/ghost and make it “holy” which is the baptism of fire and the holy ghost.

  4. Old Man says:
    September 10, 2020 at 11:29 am

    Joseph Smith did not author the Lectures on Faith.

  • Date: September 6, 2020
  • Guest: Denver Snuffer
  • Denomination: Remnant Movement
  • Theology: Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith Translation, Theology
  • Historical Mentions Mormon History
  • Tags: Church History, Denver Snuffer, GT Podcast, iTunes, Lectures on Faith, Mormon schismatic group, Mormon schisms, Mormon scriptures, prophet, Remnant Movement, Remnant Scriptures, trinity
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