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The Hübener Story You Didn’t Know

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Many of you are probably familiar with the story of Helmuth Hübener.  He was the young German teenager that was executed by Adolf Hitler for treason.  It’s a wonderful story and BYU actually turned it into a play in the 1970s.  However, Church leaders were upset by the play and decided to suppress it.  Why was that?  Dr. David Conley Nelson details, as Paul Harvey would say, “the rest of the story.”  This is the story about Hübener you probably haven’t heard.

Elder Monson arrives and he takes in the play and he just doesn’t seem to be as happy according to other witnesses as the rest of them.  Word comes down two days later through Dallin Oaks, there will be no more productions of “Huebener Against the Reich.”  In fact, Thomas Rogers is prohibited from releasing—it’s his intellectual property, but he is prohibited from giving permission for anybody else to use that play.

GT: Wow.

David:  Furthermore, Alan Keele and Douglas Tobler are “asked” to put a hold on their research and not publish anything.  A couple of things have happened.  First off the German-American community got to Thomas Monson.  They don’t like it, they don’t like it at all because Hübener should not be considered a hero, he should be considered in some of their eyes an example of how not to behave.

What does Dr. Nelson believe?

The fact is, and this is my professional opinion, that Thomas Monson got it wrong because he didn’t know enough about German culture.  He was a real great knowledgeable guy about German-American Mormons, but he did not realize that it was in the church’s best interest.  If he thought it was the church’s best interest to suppress Hübener, he was just diametrically wrong.  It would have been in the church’s best interest to promote Hübener.

Find out what else Nelson said, and don’t forget to listen to our episodes on Jewish Genealogy and J. Reuben Clark!  Check out our conversation!

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  • Guest: David Conley Nelson
  • German LDS History, Jewish-Mormon relations, LDS Leaders
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  • Tags: Alan Keele, anti-Nazi, BYU, Communists, Dallin Oaks, East Germany, genealogy, GT Podcast, Helmuth Hübener, Hitler, Hubener, iTunes, LDS Germans, Mormon Nazis, Moroni & the Swastika, Nazi Mormons, Rudi Wobbe, Third Reich, Thomas Monson, Thomas Rogers

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  1. David Conley Nelson says:
    December 26, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    Just a couple of corrections to inadvertent misstatements I made in the unfamiliar practice of being interviewed on camera:

    1. At the 13:55 mark of the video: I erroneously said, in reference to Edler Monson’s suppression of Tom Rogers’ play in 1976: “This is before Nixon and his detent [with the Soviet Union.]” In actuality, Nixon had sought detente with Brezhnev several years earlier. I was thinking of Reagan, Gorbachev, glasnost, and perestroika, which occurred later.

    2. At the 16:15 mark, and in the text excerpt quoted above, I inserted an erroneous “not” in my statement regarding Elder Monson decision to prohibit further performance of Tom Rogers’ play. My intention is clarified in the next sentence.

  • Date: December 26, 2017
  • Guest: David Conley Nelson
  • German LDS History, Jewish-Mormon relations, LDS Leaders
  • Historical Mentions Hitler, Mormon History, Rudi Wobbe, Thomas Rogers
  • Tags: Alan Keele, anti-Nazi, BYU, Communists, Dallin Oaks, East Germany, genealogy, GT Podcast, Helmuth Hübener, Hitler, Hubener, iTunes, LDS Germans, Mormon Nazis, Moroni & the Swastika, Nazi Mormons, Rudi Wobbe, Third Reich, Thomas Monson, Thomas Rogers
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