We’re continuing our discussion (see
part 3 here) with Jim Vun Cannon, a counselor in the First Presidency of the Remnant Church. In this episode, we’ll talk about Remnant Church Scriptures. Some of these revelations tell people to gather to Missouri. We’ll first talk about their version of the Doctrine & Covenants.
GT: Have you had any revelations? How many have you had since 1984?
Jim Vun Cannon: Considering our church started about 1999-2000, about 18.
GT: About 18, wow. That’s about one a year.
Jim: Yeah, pretty much.
GT: Can you about what are some of those revelations that you’ve had since 2000?
Jim: A number of those revelations are directional. As far as revealing doctrine, per se, so like when you look at Joseph Smith, Jr. and you look at his revelations, there’s a lot of doctrines that he’s revealing that we see there.
Gather to Missouri Now!
Some of these revelations tell the saints to gather to Missouri.
Jim Vun Cannon: Our revelations as we call them from the Remnant Church forward, you’ll see a lot of direction around building community, so we were to go and build community in eastern Jackson County and so we’re doing that again, and we have done that.
GT: So you’re gathering to Missouri.
Jim: More or less. Yes, we are already in Missouri. Those of us there are starting to build that because we believe that Zion is a literal place, and that it is the kingdom of heaven on earth where God the Father will dwell and so we are trying to do the best we can.
GT: That’s an interesting idea. It seems like in the LDS Church when I was growing up there was this talk about returning to Missouri but I’ll bet in the last 20 years you don’t hear that in the LDS Church anymore. Nobody talks about going back to Missouri anymore. We’re very happy in Salt Lake. We’re building Zion where we are. That’s interesting to me. I do believe that’s something with the Community of Christ as well as the Remnant Church. That’s a big piece of your doctrine and theology is gathering to Jackson County. Is that correct?
Jim: Correct, yes. If you want to look at what really, of all the different groups that are out there, that is a defining point. How you define the kingdom changes a lot of things. It really does. As you look at it, some believe that there’s nothing you can do. They look at it as Zion’s going to show up one day. If you’re worthy then you get to go in. If you’re not worthy, you’re not going to get to go in.
We believe that we can actually build Zion and it’s a process that we go through and that at some point we’ll become sanctified to where it will be the Zion that is spoken of.
Do you wish the LDS Church had more revelations, or is this simply the function of a new church to get more revelations than an established church? Why do you think the LDS Church doesn’t emphasize gathering to Missouri anymore?
Pearl of Great Price?
I also asked Jim Vun Cannon from Remnant Church about the
Pearl of Great Price.
Jim Vun Cannon: The
Book of Moses you’re talking about, as best I understand that’s the same thing we have in our Genesis. The Inspired Version is what we call it. The Joseph Smith Translation what you have, that’s what we call the Inspired Version.
GT: Oh so you actually include that as part of your Bible.
Jim: It is actually—the scriptures for members actually have that in there. The King James is really used just for those who are non-members. We’re witnessing to them, we have a common point of reference, the King James.
GT: Oh so you would have the six books of Moses then.
Jim: Yeah, I guess that would be fair to say that, yeah.
We’ll also talk about chiasmus in the
Book of Mormon. Check out our next conversation with Jim Vun Cannon of Remnant Church! (Don’t forget parts 1, 2, and 3!)
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