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Priests or Priestesses? (Part 6 of 9)

Given the mixed-gender makeup of the Quorum of the Anointed, if LDS women were granted priesthood office, would they be priests or priestesses?  Should they continue to be segregated by gender or combined into a single quorum?  Dr. Margaret Toscano sees advantages and disadvantages to both structures.

GT:  We talked about priest and priestess, king and queen. I know the Bible even mentions deaconesses and deacons. There’s also the kind of the idea of, the Supreme Court has gotten rid of the idea of “separate but equal.”  We don’t, we don’t refer to actresses anymore. They’re just actors. We try to give them the same name. So, this idea and I know last time you mentioned, you thought it was good to keep the men and the women separate. But is that “separate but equal” if we call them a priestess? Or an elderess or a high priestess? Or should we call them high priests, and elders and deacons? And whatever–

Margaret:  I always like things that are nuanced, so I try to have both. On the one hand, I think that the separate but equal has never led to equal. I mean, that’s just the truth of it, whether we’re talking race or gender. It ends up often, “Oh, we have [the] same schools, but they’re not really equal.” Right? We had [this problem] with race issues. So it’s interesting that Joseph Smith, his actual first statement was that he was going to make the Relief Society, a kingdom of priests. Then later the women connected the language of the temple and talked about a kingdom of priestesses. But I think maybe we have to have similar language in order to have an equality. On the other hand, and I think this is what you’re referring to of what I said before. So I believe, from my perspective, and this is Margaret’s interpretation, I think that the Church, that all of the councils of the Church should have both men and women. I think there should be female apostles, as well as male apostles. I won’t get into [it again]–I mean, it’s interesting, maybe Joseph and Emma were joint presidents of the Quorum of the Anointed. But we get into the problem of single people [in the Church]. I think we should be able to have single Apostles, so that you don’t have to be married to be an Apostle. So I believe that you should have [that]–the Quorum of the Apostles should be both men and women. The High Council should be men and women. So I kind of want both, Rick, but I also think that there’s some power in brotherhood and sisterhood. As I was thinking about this question of the Relief Society being a priesthood quorum, it’s almost like I want to have three different kinds of structures [a central power governed by both men and women, a women’s organization, and a men’s organization]. I want to have the central quorums of the Church to be both men and women, so they all have a vote. But there’s power in a women’s organization where the women maybe are not intimidated by the men, and they can have their own vote [as well]. So if you have the Relief Society, where they had a vote equal to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, now, and then they don’t have to vote where their husbands can see them.

Do you agree?  Check out our conversation….

Priests or Priestesses? (Part 6 of 9)
If women gained priesthood office, would they be in gendered quorums?

Don’t miss our previous conversations with Dr. Toscano.

548: Quorum of the Anointed

547:  Keys of the Priesthood

546: Joseph’s Statements on Women & Priesthood

545: Critiqing Women & Priesthood Essay

544:  Strengths of Women & Priesthood Essay

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