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Brazil Golden Plates (Part 5 of 9)

Have you heard about the Brazil Plates? The late Dr. John Pratt is going to tell us more about them!

GT:  Okay, so, tell us about the Brazilian group. How did you get associated with them?

John:  Somebody in April of 2019, a friend sends me a link and says, “Hey, a guy in Brazil claims that the Angel Moroni visited him, gave him the golden plates. He’s translated them and it just came out on March 26, 2019.

GT:  That’s an interesting date.

John:  Yeah. Then, I perked up. I had looked at Chris Nemelka’s book that came out in 2005. I had looked at–I try to be open to all. I mean, let’s look at this. So, [the book] cost a whole $5. It’s a 200-page book. It was on Amazon. It was five bucks. Obviously, nobody was making any money on this. That’s the cost of printing. So, I buy one and read it. I believe it.

GT:  This is the sealed portion.

John:  It was called the Sealed Book of Mormon, and it’s the translation. The story behind it is that this man in Brazil had Angel Moroni appear to him. Well, first, [there were] several angels. Angel Raphael came to him first and told him the long-term thing. Then, Angel Moroni comes and spends years with him and three witnesses, teaching them what they need to know, before he’s actually given the plates, the urim and thummin, and the sword of Laban.  So, here’s a man–if you open the book–here’s a man. And his first question was, by the way, “Why me?” If you read all through the Bible, every prophet first question: “Why me?”  Anyway, his name is Mauricio Berger, a German name and he’s of German descent.  [There are a] lot of Germans in southern Brazil. He said, “Why not somebody in in the United States?  He was LDS, a member of the LDS Church. The answer was, “Nobody in the United States is worthy to do it,” which is quite a statement. Anyway, he translates. He is given the urim and thummim, those interpreter stones.

GT:  Not a seer stone.

John:  Not one seer stone. He’s given the ones in…

GT:  The same ones as Joseph Smith.

John:  The same ones as Joseph Smith used.

GT:  The spectacles and the breastplate.

John:  Well, to my knowledge, he didn’t get the breastplate. At some point, I think Joseph disconnected them from the breastplate, because they were set up to where the breastplate, which would hold something, which would hold them in front of your eyes, like a pair of glasses. There were better ways to do that all that paraphernalia.

John:  I’m saying the whole stack is six inches tall. It used to be two thirds of it was sealed, and the top 1/3 was both the book of Lehi that was lost and the Book of Mormon that we have. Well, there’s about a sixth, that takes it down to half. The bottom half is totally sealed with two big rivets through the whole thing, like a nail with head on both sides, so shut. But there were 42 plates that Mauricio was allowed to unseal in the presence of the three witnesses and the eight witnesses. So, there’s 12 people that saw that being unsealed. Of those 42 plates, he has translated the first 19 into this book called The Sealed Book. Now, it’s called The Sealed Book instead of just The Sealed Book of Mormon, because of litigation with the LDS Church that has copyrighted Mormon’s name.

GT:  I thought we weren’t Mormons anymore.

John:  They’ve copyrighted that name.

GT:  The Book of Mormon is a copyrighted name?

John:  No, the name Mormon is a copyrighted name. What if they copyrighted the name John, or Jeff or something? I mean, I don’t think their church is going to win the litigation. But, it turns out–anyway, so the name has been changed to just The Sealed Book, but It’s only 19 plates that he’s translated. There’s going to be another 23 plates that he’s still going to translate. I will be one of the witnesses of the next part that comes out of the 23 plates. There’s a different set of plates.

GT:  Oh, so there’s a sequel coming.

John:  There’s a sequel. But it doesn’t come until we’ve learned to live by what’s in the first part. So, at some point I’d like to explain–I am explaining about two plates. Now, I’d like to explain kind of what’s in them and why people should read them.

Check the video to see what John had to say about the plates!  Check out our conversation….

Dr John Pratt & others review the Brazil Plates.

Don’t miss our previous conversations with John!

589:  John Pratt’s Spiritual Journey

588:  Dating Problems with First Vision

587:  Dating First Vision

586:  Dating Christ’s Birth

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Who Stole the Lost 116 Pages? (Part 9 of 12)

If Lucy Harris didn’t burn the lost manuscript, who stole it?  Historian Don Bradley thinks a big suspect might have been an extended member of the Harris family.  What else does he know?

Don:  It turns out, for instance, the Harris’s had a son-in-law who was a con man. He was a swindler. His name was Flanders Dike. Flanders Dike came from an entire family of swindlers. Two years after the manuscript disappeared, Flanders Dike is mentioned in a newspaper article saying he has skipped town. He’s left Palmyra, with about $1,000 of other people’s goods and money. There’s another notice in the paper several years later saying he’s escaped from jail after doing similar shenanigans again. There are accounts of other swindles carried out by various [relatives] like his father and his brothers. Lucy Mack Smith gives an account in her memoir, saying that Flanders Dike, at one time before the manuscript disappeared, he stole the Anthon transcript temporarily. So, this guy had already stolen documents, other documents associated with the coming fourth of the Book of Mormon. Then just four months later, the Book of Mormon manuscript goes missing. Why wouldn’t we suspect this guy?

I was also surprised to find out that Martin Harris missed his daughter’s wedding because he was helping Joseph translate the Book of Mormon!  What other surprises does Don have in store?  Check out our conversation….

If Lucy Harris didn’t burn the manuscript, who stole it? Historian Don Bradley has a likely suspect.

Don’t miss our other conversations with Don!

361: Exonerating Lucy Harris (Bradley)

360: Masonic Golden Plates & Temple Theology (Bradley)

359: Temple Endowment in Lost Pages (Bradley)

358: Laban Killed During Passover (Bradley)

357: More than 116 Pages Lost? (Bradley)

356: How Much of BoM is Missing? (Bradley)

355: Re-Writing Oliver’s Words: Dirty, Nasty, Filthy Scrape? (Bradley)

354: Dating Fanny Alger

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Exonerating Lucy Harris (Part 8 of 12)

Who stole the Lost Pages of the Book of Mormon?  Up to now, suspicion has been squarely laid at the feet of Lucy Harris, Martin’s wife.  Historian Don Bradley believes that Lucy is innocent of the charge.  How does he come to that conclusion?

Don:  Lucy Harris was a very devout Quaker. She also was someone who really tended to speak her mind. She had a reputation for being combative. She’s not somebody who tended to slink around, lie, do things behind people’s back and hide them. She was very forthright, and she was very devout in her Quaker beliefs. For her to say before God, on her death bed, which is what the account says, that she didn’t know what happened to the manuscript gives us pretty good reason to believe that she didn’t know what happened to the manuscript. Someone who was completely convinced by this was Martin Harris. So even though they had been estranged for eight years, Martin Harris was no stranger to the fact that his wife had become an enemy to Mormonism. She was certainly an antagonist to him. She was a combative person. She had her faults, but he could not bring himself to believe, when he found out she said this on her deathbed, that she had lied on her deathbed about this as she’s about to meet God. He couldn’t believe it. So he then completely abandons the view for the rest of his life that Lucy Harris had anything to do with the theft. Recall, he never thought she burned the manuscript.

Don further explains how the story about her burning the manuscript came about decades later.  (By the way, here is a link to Don’s book on Amazon.)  Check out our conversation….

Historian Don Bradley thinks Lucy Harris is unfairly blamed for stealing the Lost Pages of the Book of Mormon.

Don’t miss our other conversations with Don!

360: Masonic Golden Plates & Temple Theology

359: Temple Endowment in Lost Pages

358: Laban Killed During Passover

357: More than 116 Pages Lost?

356: How Much of BoM is Missing?

355: Re-Writing Oliver’s Words: Dirty, Nasty, Filthy Scrape?

354: Dating Fanny Alger