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Christmas Party Plea Deal

This is our last conversation with Shannon Flynn.  In this episode we’ll talk about Mark Hofmann’s lawyer, Ron Yengich.  Ron has defended some of Utah’s most notorious criminals.  We’ll talk about the plea bargain in which Ron was able to plea bargain down to second degree murder, rather than first degree murder.  How did that come about? It may have been a Christmas Party Plea Deal.  We’ll also ask, why doesn’t Mark grant interview requests?

Shannon:  I think he still harbors an idea that he will get out some day.  I believe that’s what drives most of his denials of talking to anybody, corresponding with news people or anything like that.

GT:  You think that he doesn’t want to do interviews because he wants to still get out.  Is that what you’re saying?

Shannon:  Yes.  See his attorney was Ron Yengich….

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Mark Hofmann’s Unusual Prison Visitors

Shannon Flynn is one of the few people that have visited Mark Hofmann in prison.  He’ll tell about his experiences meeting with Mark as well as some of the surprise visitors Mark has had, like the man he tried to kill but killed his wife instead.

But I did find out that Gary Sheets went one time. You’ll be able to show that, the correspondence for that, but I have no idea what was said.  No idea.  I can’t imagine what that would have been like, though actually for Mark I don’t believe that would have been the worst encounter had had of that nature.

Shannon also describes his visits to Mark Hofmann in prison.  (Don’t forget to hear about Shannon’s other comments on Mark’s prison experiences, and whether Hofmann should be released from prison.)  Check out our conversation…..

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Would Mark Hofmann Kill Again?

Sadly, October 15 marks 32 years since Kathy Sheets and Steven Christensen were killed.  Shannon asks, and answers an important question.

Shannon:  People have asked me, “Do you think he would ever murder anybody again?”  I believe yes and no.

[This is] my own thought of it.  I believe no because he is not naturally that way.  He sort of is now.  But I believe yes because someone told me this, and I hope that it is true.  Often times when a bear hurts or kills somebody in Yellowstone Park or something like that, they have to put the bear down.  Because they say that once that bear gets the taste of blood in his mouth, he will do it again and again and again.

I think that’s Mark.  He’s done it once.  If he did not have a motivation to do it, I don’t believe he would.  He wouldn’t go out and shoot somebody for no reason, but I believe he has the taste of blood in his mouth.  If he got himself into another situation where he was up a creek and didn’t know what to do and was about again to be exposed, I mean that’s the reason he killed Steve Christensen.

Lots of people have wondered who the third bomb was intended for.  We’ll get into the different theories.

Shannon:  that’s the reason he was parked where he was.  That wasn’t just a random place to park.  It was right down the street from the McEwen Mansion.  The attorney representing the guy that was going to purchase that McLellin Collection, pay off the loan, his office was in the McEwen Mansion.  So Mark was right down to the last hour, minute, and second.  He couldn’t get out of it anymore.  He was going to have to go up that road and say, I don’t have it, which he believed at that point the whole thing would unravel.  It very well may have.

At that point he may have been so irrational that that’s possible.  What in fact happened was, he parked that car, sat there for quite a while and thought, “I am caught.  I am caught.  What do I do?”  He got out of the car, that bomb package was sitting on the driver’s seat and he made a decision to flip it over.

GT:  So you think he did it on purpose.

Shannon:  Oh yeah.  Now if he believed that he could have survived that, the car did burn but there were enough papers and stuff in the trunk that had it burned completely, which it didn’t, which cars don’t.  That only happens in the movies.  He could have said, “Yes.  McLellin Collection right there.”  Who could have proved him wrong?

GT:  Right.

Shannon:  He could have come up with a story about who put that bomb there, that he was really going up to the office and then he forgot something, came back, flipped the package over.  So does he regret what he did?  No.  Was he suicidal as, “I’m trying to repent of this?”  I don’t think so.  I think his hand is in the cookie jar and he’s thinking still, “how can I get out of this?”  He flipped the package.

Shannon:  To get back to that third bomb, I don’t know if there was a rational reason for that.  I just use all those examples because there doesn’t need to be a rational reason for it to have happened, because there was lots of irrational things.  Who was that intended for?  No idea.  Maybe he didn’t know who it was intended for until that day.

We’ll talk more about potential victim David Christensen (no relation to Steve), Shannon’s role in the McLellin Collection, and Mark’s dealings with Elder Oaks, Hinckley, and Pinnock.  Who do you think the third bomb was intended for?  Was it a suicide attempt?  Was it intended for Brent Ashworth as Curt Bench thinks?  Check out our conversation!