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Mark’s Trial, Dorie’s 5-Minute Divorce (Part 6)

Dorie Olds tells her recollections of the preliminary trial, Mark’s plea bargain, and her 5-minute divorce to bomber Mark Hofmann.  It’s a fascinating conclusion to our conversation with Dorie.

GT: And then the plea bargain comes I guess. What did you think?

Dorie: The plea bargain. He was telling his dad. He was telling me, and he was telling his dad “I’m innocent, I’m innocent, I’m innocent.”

And, his dad’s like, “Why are you going to plead guilty to this if you’re innocent? You don’t plead guilty.”

And I’m going, “What is it?” Same thing. “What is it you’re doing?”

And he told both of us a story, which didn’t make sense to me, but i was like, “I don’t understand this. I don’t understand it. I can do nothing.” I could never make him do anything. And that’s the truth. I could never make him do anything. So, again, I [had this] out of control, powerless feeling with him.

And so what he told his dad and I, what he said was, “There’s a reason why I’m doing this. It’s going to protect you and the kids from being killed.” That’s what he said. I don’t know. See, it’s dramatic enough that it’s like, okay. “But I can’t talk about it. I can’t tell you. I can’t.” See. It’s another big story, you know? “But I’m innocent. But I’m going to plead guilty. But I’m doing it to protect my thing. I’m a such a good guy. I’m doing it to protect my family.” That’s the story. So yeah. So that’s what he said.

Check out our conversation…  Don’t forget to check out our previous conversations with Dorie!

Dorie Olds tells about Mark Hofmann's preliminary trial, and her 5-minute divorce from him.
Dorie Olds tells about Mark Hofmann’s preliminary trial, and her 5-minute divorce from him.

216: “You May Be in Danger” (Olds)

215: Was Dorie Blamed for the Bombings? (Olds)

214: “Be Grateful for Adversity” (Olds)

213: Gaslighted by Mark (Olds)

212: Finding Mark’s First Forgery (Olds)

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Was Dorie Blamed for the Bombing? (Part 4)

Is it true Dorie blamed for the bombings?  By whom?  It’s a really interesting story!

Dorie:  [Mark’s parents] are telling me, “This is all your fault. If you hadn’t wanted the house…”

GT:  It was your fault that he was bombed?

Yes, my fault. The whole thing. Yes. And just being accosted by them saying, “This is all your fault.” Yeah. I was.  And I remember thinking, “I have to do something. I got to go out.”

And they said, “You can’t leave the room! You can’t leave this room!”

And it’s like, “Yes, I can! I am leaving in this room.” And walking out of the room into the hallway. No one was there and hearing this voice, tell me–a source of God, “Everything’s going to be okay.” And having this calm, peace come over me that is still there today that I still feel today, calm, peace, saying “Everything’s going to be okay.”

GT:  This kind of boggles my mind. Why would they blame you for Mark being blown up?

Dorie:  Because it does make sense. Because one, they don’t want to blame their own son. That’s the natural automatic.

GT:  But why wouldn’t they blame a stranger?

Check out our conversation……

Mark Hofmann's parents blamed Dorie for the bombing, and for Mark's financial pressures.
Mark Hofmann’s parents blamed Dorie for the bombing, and for Mark’s financial pressures.


Check out our interview with Michael Quinn on his dealings with Mark Hofmann!

186: Quinn on Hofmann

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“Be Grateful for Adversity” (Part 3)

What has Dorie Olds learned from being married to Mark Hofmann?  I was amazed and impressed to hear her say, “Be grateful for adversity.”  Wow.  Certainly, she has experienced more adversity than most.  I think you’ll be impressed by the lessons she has learned.

GT: So, as you look back now, what I’m hearing, please correct me if I’m wrong, but what I’m hearing is, as awful as this was, you’ve come out as a better person….

So as you look back on that night, especially knowing what you know now, do you regret your decision?

Dorie:  No, no.

GT: So you’re–

Dorie: I think I made the right choice and the energy was there for me to go through with it.

Dorie:  You know what? That adversity is important for us to have, to be able to learn what we came here to learn. And it’s important. And I don’t know how to explain this very well. It’s like be grateful for the adversity. Be grateful for the adversity because it’s because it’s what’s bringing you awareness and it’s bringing you to where you want to be rather than saying, “Oh no, that shouldn’t have happened.”

GT:  The Book of Mormon tells us there must needs be opposition on all things. Is that how you think of it?

Dorie:  Yeah, kind of. And it’s because I know that I wouldn’t be where I am today without that. And I am grateful for it. I’m grateful for all those experiences and I’m grateful that all the way through it, I can pinpoint places where I was assisted by that higher source. I had somebody asked me, “Do you still have your testimony?”

Dorie: And when I said yes, they were surprised.

Check out our conversation….

Despite the tragedy, Dorie Olds says, "Be Grateful for Adversity"
Despite the tragedy, Dorie Olds says, “Be Grateful for Adversity”


If you’re interested in our other interviews on the Hofmann bombings, check out our George Throckmorton interviews.  He figured out how Hofmann was forging documents!

175: Why was the Hofmann Sentence so Light? (Throckmorton)

174: Hofmann, LDS Leaders, & the McLellin Collection (Throckmorton)

173: Why Hofmann Killed his Best Friends (Throckmorton)

172: Who was the 3rd Bomb Intended For?  (Throckmorton)

171: More Hofmann Techniques & Forged Sports Memorabilia  (Throckmorton)

170: How Hofmann Fooled Experts with a Toy Chemistry Set (Throckmorton)

169: How George Became a Forensics Expert (Throckmorton)