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*Apology to Dorie (Part 13 of 13)

There are many people who wondered how Mark Hofmann hid his secret life of forgeries from his own wife Dorie.  Brent Ashworth was among those.  In our final conversation with Brent, he tells how he came to realize Dorie was duped like everyone else, and how he apologized to Dorie for his beliefs about her.

Brent:  I always thought Mark was using his wife, that she was in on some of this, because she was so near to it. I was kind of taking it out mentally on his wife, on Dorie for those years. Finally, it dawned on me. It takes me a little while. But finally, it dawned on me that she was just as much in the dark as the rest of us were, even though she was right next to him, and that I’d been kind of blaming her or I shouldn’t have blamed her for any part in it. I felt guilty. I thought, “I need to go apologize to Dorie.” So, it was 1990, it was 3 years after Hofmann’s gone to the slammer. I went up to her house and it was the same door.  She was behind the screen [door,] and I think she was a little surprised to see me.

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Brent Ashworth gave an apology to Dorie for believing she was involved in Mark Hofmann’s crimes.

Don’t miss our previous conversations with Brent!

512:  Emily Dickinson Forgery

511:  Hofmann’s Court Mistake

510:  Tragedy Before Hofmann Trial

509:  Catching More Hofmann Forgeries

508:  Brent Called Salamander Letter Fake

507:  Hofmann’s Motive Against Church

506:  Why 3rd Bomb wasn’t Suicide Attempt

505: McLellin Collection Offers

504: Lucy Mack Smith Forgery

503: Mark’s Unknown Half Million$ Deal

502: Hiding from Hofmann

501: Meeting Serial Killers

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Mark’s Trial, Dorie’s 5-Minute Divorce (Part 6)

Dorie Olds tells her recollections of the preliminary trial, Mark’s plea bargain, and her 5-minute divorce to bomber Mark Hofmann.  It’s a fascinating conclusion to our conversation with Dorie.

GT: And then the plea bargain comes I guess. What did you think?

Dorie: The plea bargain. He was telling his dad. He was telling me, and he was telling his dad “I’m innocent, I’m innocent, I’m innocent.”

And, his dad’s like, “Why are you going to plead guilty to this if you’re innocent? You don’t plead guilty.”

And I’m going, “What is it?” Same thing. “What is it you’re doing?”

And he told both of us a story, which didn’t make sense to me, but i was like, “I don’t understand this. I don’t understand it. I can do nothing.” I could never make him do anything. And that’s the truth. I could never make him do anything. So, again, I [had this] out of control, powerless feeling with him.

And so what he told his dad and I, what he said was, “There’s a reason why I’m doing this. It’s going to protect you and the kids from being killed.” That’s what he said. I don’t know. See, it’s dramatic enough that it’s like, okay. “But I can’t talk about it. I can’t tell you. I can’t.” See. It’s another big story, you know? “But I’m innocent. But I’m going to plead guilty. But I’m doing it to protect my thing. I’m a such a good guy. I’m doing it to protect my family.” That’s the story. So yeah. So that’s what he said.

Check out our conversation…  Don’t forget to check out our previous conversations with Dorie!

Dorie Olds tells about Mark Hofmann's preliminary trial, and her 5-minute divorce from him.
Dorie Olds tells about Mark Hofmann’s preliminary trial, and her 5-minute divorce from him.

216: “You May Be in Danger” (Olds)

215: Was Dorie Blamed for the Bombings? (Olds)

214: “Be Grateful for Adversity” (Olds)

213: Gaslighted by Mark (Olds)

212: Finding Mark’s First Forgery (Olds)

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“You May Be in Danger” (Part 5)

We’re continuing our conversation with Dorie Olds.  Following the 2 bombs that went off in 1985, I asked her if she was worried for her safety.  At the time, she didn’t know that her husband, Mark Hofmann was planting the bombs….  Was Dorie really in danger?

GT: Let’s go back to the awful October of 1985. So, I’ve talked with several people that have known Mark and they were all, they were all looking for bombs under their car.

Dorie: Yeah, it frightened a lot of people.

GT:  Curt Bench, Shannon Flynn, even Michael Quinn. Were you concerned for your safety? Because none of these people believed that it was Mark initially either.

Dorie: Yeah.

GT: Were you concerned?

Dorie:  I wasn’t until Mark called me. He called me and said, “You need to leave the house because you may be in danger.” So he’s telling me this big old lie, scaring me….I remember just running out so fast that I didn’t even close the dishwasher. I remember just running, leaving so fast. And then [I was] talking to Mark later and he laughed when I told him, “Yeah, I left. I grabbed everything.”

“Well you didn’t really need to,” or something like that. He laughed at me because I got scared. I remember that.

GT:  That struck you as pretty odd?

Dorie:  Yes. It was like, “What? And why did you tell me? Why are you telling me I need to leave? If you didn’t want me to leave? Why are you? Why? What?”

Because I did not understand him. What’s going on? And it’s like, if I’m not in danger, why are you telling me I’m in danger? But yeah, he laughed. I remember that.

Find out more of Dorie’s perspective!

Dorie describes running out of her house when bomber Mark Hofmann told her, "You may be in danger."
Dorie describes running out of her house when bomber Mark Hofmann told her, “You may be in danger.”